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Thread: What is up with 2, 3, s, h, 5 grouped together

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Posted: 2024-01-28 00:45
I am on lesson 29 but having some real difficulty. So I am trying to differentiate between these letters and numbers. But when these specific characters are bunched together in a lesson it sounds so fast that I am having the hardest time trying to tell what the differences. I have used morse machine, I have put together code groups with these specific characters. Any tips for success?

Posted: 2024-01-28 10:49
I'm also on lesson 29 and I'm experiencing something similar although maybe not with al the characters you mention.

For me it seems hard to tell the difference between H and 5. I even catch myself counting for the first time. :(

My speed setting is: 21wmp/6eff. (if I go up with the effective speed, I mess up big time)

Tips are always welcome, but I guess it's the same old story, practise...practise...practise.

Posted: 2024-01-28 12:50
Everyone has this sort of thing to some extent.

If your ears are OK and you are using an audio frequency your ears pick up well, without distortion etc, then eventually it will go away.

After a bit you will be able to tell which is which partially from how long the "char" is in morse, as well as the number of dit+dahs

Repeat repeat repeat - till it becomes second nature.

Learning morse is NOT the trivial exercise that people with high aptitude who picked it up in a month sometimes make out.

Allow yourself a year at least for getting to head copying and treat anything shorter as a bonus.

If you take 2 years or more - well that's very common too.


Posted: 2024-01-28 15:32
I registered on this site in 2017 and been on and off learning the code. Off most of the time to be honest. Effectively I think I've been at it for 3 or 4 months.

This is just the way it is and I accept it.

There is one plus though. It seems that if I don't do anything with the code because "things" get in the way. I don't have to start all over again.

Even after lets say a year of inactivity, I can pick up almost were I left.

That makes it worth while to make progress, because all is not lost when you "give up" for the time being and proceed later on.

Maybe this is could be a help for others to carry on and not be scared if progress or interest is lost temporarily.

Posted: 2024-01-30 03:16
Thank you Chris...So I am on lesson 29 and 1 year, 3 months so far. To be fare the first few months my dedication was not what is now, so my progress has been better for sure. I appreciate the advice.

Posted: 2024-01-31 13:19
Hi Frank,

Same as you I grouped them for practice. After a minute of practice I got the hang of it and would miss less and less times but next day I found myself at about the same point again. I repeated the training several times.

What helped me too I think, was to say the sounds aloud to myself repeatedly in sequence "di-di-dit and di-di-di-dit" a.s.o. while having a stroll in the park in a casual manner, no drill.

Eventually it started getting easier until hesitation nearly disappeared.

Today I still mix them depending on fitness condition and need to listen carefully but it has become much easier.

Later when hearing full words like ship or fish you may find they belong to the easier ones as the brain figures out the only way it makes sense.

With call-signs it remains more of a challenge but also gets better -eventually.

Don't despair, just keep at it as Chris said "till it becomes second nature".

Posted: 2024-02-07 02:53
Thank you Carlos for the advice. I am making some progress on this lesson but still on it. I have to say this lesson is competing for the high the score of most attempts.

Posted: 2024-02-08 01:48
Practice practice practice is what I did and don’t get discouraged that is what I did now Iam on the air nightly with many qso’s

Posted: 2024-02-09 02:27
That is awesome Wd3dx. I am practicing and not getting discouraged, but look for advice from those who have been down the path. Thank you

Posted: 2024-02-14 00:18
Well, after a 161 attempts I finally broke through to lesson 30, lol. Thank you all for your supportive advice!

Posted: 2024-02-15 13:38
Hi everyone. Like Frank and Marco, I too am at the beginning of the journey. I'm at lesson 19 with 20/10 wpm and I'm fine. I read that Marco is on lesson 29 with 21/6 wpm; I would like to know what your speed was in the lessons around 20. I also thank those who indicated what the natural times will be to learn to work with CW in a decent way: I imagined they would be so long!

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