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Thread: SUCCESS

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Posted: 2012-04-15 02:09
"Success is not final, failure is not fatal; habit is what keeps you going".

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm".


Posted: 2012-04-15 20:34
Subsribed on "Readers Digest" I suppose?

Success is not an ABILITY, success is a RESULT.



Posted: 2012-04-16 01:46
Success isn't a result of spontaneous combustion. You must set yourself on fire.


Posted: 2012-04-16 16:37
Wols:


"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm".


OK, you mean you are succesfull when you fail to learn Morse code, but keep being enthusiastic for the next goal, being possibly fishing in the ocean or whatever. And after failing that, hunting lions without any weapons I suppose.

Thats the way that ideas are mendeled out, I expect.


Posted: 2012-04-16 16:42
pd0ldb:
OK, you mean you are succesfull when you fail to learn Morse code, but keep being enthusiastic for the next goal


Not so much failing to learn, but realising that setbacks are to be expected and then trying again and succeeding!

[quote=pd0ldb possibly fishing in the ocean or whatever. And after failing that, hunting lions without any weapons I suppose.[/quote]

Now you are being silly.
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Posted: 2012-04-16 19:13
Colin,

This thread sets me thinking.

First of all I am with that girl, because she takes literally what is said. I am victim of people taking the law literally and not the way I was interpreting and explaining it my way. So.

But You all are trying te learn Morse code, because you like it, not for making money or whatever, just because you like it as a form of spending leisure time the way you like.

"You like" is essential, because why should you deliberately do things you don't like in your leisure time.

However suppose that when you are half way in the Morse code course and you don't like it anymore.

What is then your advice?

Go on to reach your goal that you set shortly after drinking a bottle of Scottish whiskey in the past; seeing a WWII motion picture or a ham in a fieldday; a goal that you don't like anymore to reach, because you don't like it anymore, and it takes too much time? Hundred times more time than you estimated when you made your decision to learn Morse code?

Or just go on because you obviously made an error in setting that goal? And spent much more time in a way you don't like anymore, because you stick on what you wantED and not at what you presently want, and also knowing that when you should had known what a task you started, you should not started at all with it?

Or do you advice to go on till you reached your predeterminded goal, set in circumstances that you did not realise how much work and time should be involved, that you afterwards should prefer to have spent in another way?

Should it not be better not to decide to learn Morse code, but to learn it as long as you like to do it? Generally you will then stop after 8 characters (lesson 7)



Posted: 2012-04-18 04:48
Chairefone,

I'm stupid, ok.

I don't know why I have to read your postings 10 times before it sinks in. Simple Mind I guess!

Let's say you come on this site and set the goal to of course increase your speed so you start working diligently towards your goal of increasing speed.

30, 40, 50 and in the meantime when you hit 60 and 70 your mind is telling you that "boy if you can hit 70, certainly 80 is possible! You can see what is happening here. It just keeps on going and going and going...

Now your undefined goal of increasing speed when you first landed on this site has spun out of control.

Here is how out of control it became. I remember one night checking into a hotel because I had worked 20 hours without any sleep. Even though as tired as I was, I still needed to do my cw practice for the day, so I sat down at my computer to practice.

I remember from the previous week that I copied a new all time personal high speed when I combined alcohal and helium from a balloon so I tried it again but I forgot that I had velium medication in my system for lower back pain.

The last thing I remember is my computer screen getting blurry and I passed out. I awoke hearing the words "Maid Service" and it was the maid asking me if I was alright? I asked her what time it was and what day it was realizing that I had missed almost a complete day of business meetings.

I then reaized how close to suicide I had actually gotten.

Is it really worth it???

This will be my final post.

WARNING: BE VERY CAREFULL!

Wols
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Posted: 2012-04-18 18:22
OK Wols,

I was directing my message to Colin G8TMV, but Colin does not want to compose a reply. May be he despises me. He is absolutely right in that behaviour. I respect that.

First of all, don't blame yourself for not understanding my way of expression immediately. That's is my fault. I realise that.

The reason of my presence on this website is to increase my Morse proficiency, but I am mainly interested in copying PGP coded text from an Aldis source, due to the fact that the sending side, purchased a vibroplex to switch the laser pen directed to my window, in order to increase the traffic volume/hour. I am paid per rcvd message, so I am willingful to increase my proficiency.

The HST problem you scetched may be true for some people, I believe that; but in general people starting Koch lessons here stop by the tenth of thousand after a few lessons, and never finish the course, so they wasted their time, or they spent it because they like it up to the point they don't like it anymore. So they spent their leasure time with things they like, without any result, just as watching TV or playing computer games.

I say: keep exercising as you are used to do since 3 december 2011, not as an addiction but in order to communicate with other real hams on the amateur bands. 20 wpm will do. So you are already exercising more than 4 months right now, you master now 11 characters and you did already 2 exercises with complete words based on that limited subset of characters. So you are on your way.

Gd luck.



BTW Wols is meant "slow" as I understood, via google suburban dictionary. Chairfone was a pretty dumb follower, "friend" and admirer of Socrates, probably an undercover in order to collect evidence against Socrates in order to get rid of him.



Posted: 2012-04-19 18:03
Success? Well, way back in the Navy it was getting my qual card signed off as I met each goal as the Navy set forth. I was awaiting for a school slot to open and I had about 8 mos before that happy event materialized. In its infinate wisdom, said organization assigned me to radioman A school as a temp instructor. Was I a radioman? No. LOL So, I had to learn morse code because the powers that be desided I could be of some use as a tutor to dinks so they wouldn't flunk out. My masterchief only gave me 2 weeks to get to 5 wpm so that I could get started. Ha, I was ready in one week. Success! Then, I worked with guys that were on 20 hours of manditory study. That means that they were so far behind the qualification time table that they were ordered to do 20/week hours more study time over the normal 50 hr/week of lab time already in the course. There success was measured one studasaurus at a time. For them, it was getting letters signed off. Didn't loose anyone but a few were very close to the timelimit. In that 8 mo time period, I went from 5 wpm to 25 wpm just from 10 hrs/day of tutoring. It didn't mean anything to me cause I was an ET and never used CW for anything. See? For me it was a job and ment nothing. For them, it was Success. They had a goal and they met it. My goal was getting them through. There I was successful and very proud we never lost one. So, if you want to learn CW you have to have some finish goal that involves CW or you will wander off track. Breaking down the letters and numbers into little chuncks to learn gives smaller goals to reach all leading to the final goal of learning cw. You can talk to hams at 5 wpm. Heck, I will chew the rag with you at 3 wpm. The main goal in learning CW is to yak with someone else. That is fun. The reason to lean CW in the first place. I am having a blast on this site. My goal is to get my speed back up over 20wpm. Oh, and to learn to use a new toy I just got. A Bug!! I have been playing with it to get the speed down to 5 wpm. Not very reliable down there. I also send myself 20wpm charactors at 5 wpm speed. That is hard as I find my speed creeping up. Those are my goals now. Success as I meet each one.


Posted: 2012-04-21 19:15
Great post Robert!

I set myself two goals from the outset:
1)I want to learn morse, to prove to myself that I can do it
2) If I prove to myself that I can learn morse, then I'm going to study for the Amateur Radio exam so I can have QSO's

I did the first part, now I'm studying for the exam here in June. I have no background in electronics and to be honest I find the theory difficult, but what learning Morse did for me, was prove that no matter how difficult or counter intuitive something is to learn, if you stick at it and really try - you can learn just about anything.


Posted: 2012-04-22 15:35
"but what learning Morse did for me, was prove that no matter how difficult or counter intuitive something is to learn, if you stick at it and really try - you can learn just about anything"

David, the above words are very encouraging!!
I'm in my 21 lesson now.. I'm practising Morse just as a hobby..

But I have a real test ahead,am preparing for one of the highest exams in my country.. Morse taught me that practise makes one perfect.

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