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There are non standard codes for ÄÅÇŁÑ etc. in the Wikipedia article for Morse code.
But they fail to cite any reliable source.

Are those really used in CW?
I heard hams communicate each other using a kind of English based creole language like "R MOST OK OM BUT SIG NW VY WEAK PSE AGN RST ES NAME", right?

https://www.google.com/search?q=international+morse+code&oq=international+morse+code&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i512l9.5215j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


eg.

https://www.itu.int/dms_pubrec/itu-r/rec/m/R-REC-M.1677-1-200910-I!!PDF-E.pdf


https://www.itu.int/dms_pubrec/itu-r/rec/m/R-REC-M.1172-0-199510-I!!PDF-E.pdf


The pidgin you mention is a common (use) convention :-

https://cwops.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/CW-Abbreviations.pdf

https://www.skccgroup.com/member_services/beginners_corner/#Common-Abbreviations


- but people still do their own thing . . .

eg.

TNKS TNX TKS etc for thanks


Don't forget the common Q-codes . .


https://www.arrl.org/files/file/Get%20on%20the%20Air/Comm%20w%20Other%20Hams-Q%20Signals.pdf


and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabun_code


cb

Legally speaking, there is nothing that forces a radio amateur operator to use a specific morse code mapping. My UK licence T&C doesn't even mention morse at all.

But I have seen old UK licences (late 50s) mentioning that a callsign should be given every 15 minutes in morse even if you use ssb or am. Weird!

They moved a lot of operating procedures over to the RSGB/ARRL guidelines and common operation procedures, away from actual regulation.



As to the 15 mins - most people say every time who they are and two whom they are "overing" - especially in cw, so mostly you get a call sign every few mins.

And it's now in the mode of operation - not morse for the ease of the "Y" station monitoring services.

You also used to be obliged to log all contacts and have the log available for inspection, but now that spies don't use SW radio so much, its all been suspended.




Here's the UK OfCom licence ID section:-



Identification
13(1) The Licensee, or, if this Licence is a Full Licence, then any other authorised person who uses the Radio Equipment, shall ensure that

a) the station is clearly identifiable at all times;

b) the Callsign is transmitted as frequently as is practicable during transmissions, unless the specific requirements of Note (g) to the Notes to Schedule 1 of this Licence apply; and

c) the Callsign is given in voice or other appropriate format consistent with the mode of operation.

Note (g)

(g) Where Radio Equipment is being used in the 5 MHz band, the following specific terms and conditions will also apply:

vii/

(c) where the Licensee’s transmissions have been other than in speech mode for at least fifteen minutes, the Licensee shall transmit his call sign when next he transmits speech

(ix) At a Temporary Location within the United Kingdom or Crown Dependencies, the Licensee shall give the location of the Station every 30 minutes to an accuracy of at least 5km by a generally used identifier as indicated in Notes to the licence”;




As "frequently as practicable" is still a bit weird . . .

Next revision maybe . .


cb

They moved a lot of operating procedures over to the RSGB/ARRL guidelines and common operation procedures, away from actual regulation.



As to the 15 mins - most people say every time who they are and two whom they are "overing" - especially in cw, so mostly you get a call sign every few mins.

And it's now in the mode of operation - not morse for the ease of the "Y" station monitoring services.

You also used to be obliged to log all contacts and have the log available for inspection, but now that spies don't use SW radio so much, its all been suspended.




Here's the UK OfCom licence ID section:-



Identification
13(1) The Licensee, or, if this Licence is a Full Licence, then any other authorised person who uses the Radio Equipment, shall ensure that

a) the station is clearly identifiable at all times;

b) the Callsign is transmitted as frequently as is practicable during transmissions, unless the specific requirements of Note (g) to the Notes to Schedule 1 of this Licence apply; and

c) the Callsign is given in voice or other appropriate format consistent with the mode of operation.

Note (g)

(g) Where Radio Equipment is being used in the 5 MHz band, the following specific terms and conditions will also apply:

vii/

(c) where the Licensee’s transmissions have been other than in speech mode for at least fifteen minutes, the Licensee shall transmit his call sign when next he transmits speech

(ix) At a Temporary Location within the United Kingdom or Crown Dependencies, the Licensee shall give the location of the Station every 30 minutes to an accuracy of at least 5km by a generally used identifier as indicated in Notes to the licence”;




As "frequently as practicable" is still a bit weird . . .

Next revision maybe . .


cb

They moved a lot of operating procedures over to the RSGB/ARRL guidelines and common operation procedures, away from actual regulation.



As to the 15 mins - most people say every time who they are and two whom they are "overing" - especially in cw, so mostly you get a call sign every few mins.

And it's now in the mode of operation - not morse for the ease of the "Y" station monitoring services.

You also used to be obliged to log all contacts and have the log available for inspection, but now that spies don't use SW radio so much, its all been suspended.




Here's the UK OfCom licence ID section:-



Identification
13(1) The Licensee, or, if this Licence is a Full Licence, then any other authorised person who uses the Radio Equipment, shall ensure that

a) the station is clearly identifiable at all times;

b) the Callsign is transmitted as frequently as is practicable during transmissions, unless the specific requirements of Note (g) to the Notes to Schedule 1 of this Licence apply; and

c) the Callsign is given in voice or other appropriate format consistent with the mode of operation.

Note (g)

(g) Where Radio Equipment is being used in the 5 MHz band, the following specific terms and conditions will also apply:

vii/

(c) where the Licensee’s transmissions have been other than in speech mode for at least fifteen minutes, the Licensee shall transmit his call sign when next he transmits speech

(ix) At a Temporary Location within the United Kingdom or Crown Dependencies, the Licensee shall give the location of the Station every 30 minutes to an accuracy of at least 5km by a generally used identifier as indicated in Notes to the licence”;




As "frequently as practicable" is still a bit weird . . .

Next revision maybe . .


cb

Not sure why there are three copies of that last post!

There were three edits of the post and 4 posts total before . .