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Thread: Cw abbreviations

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Posted: 2019-10-17 22:04
What abbreviations are common


Posted: 2019-10-18 00:38
vy abt qth qrn qrm qsy qth qrv wx tks mni 73 cu agn xyl xmas dr om


Posted: 2019-10-18 10:01
qso hw? fb es de ur fer cud hi sri



Posted: 2019-10-18 11:56
bk sk kn k ? r


Posted: 2019-10-18 15:49
ant rst 5nn didahdididit qrx qsl buro condx dx cq nnma ii hi pse pwr tx rx trx tcvr


Posted: 2019-10-19 18:09
qrp qro qrs qrq qrt ge gn gm tu


Posted: 2019-10-20 10:49
What does "nnma" mean? (your first post above)


Posted: 2019-10-20 12:49
Good day to all,
shouldn't there be a distinction between the prosigns and the abbreviations? I think that the prosigns are handled completely differently (i.e. as completely individual characters) from the abbreviations (who are actually self-standing words).

Please correct me if I am wrong
73 Panos


Posted: 2019-10-26 19:19
I second that. The same goes for Q-groups.


Posted: 2019-10-26 23:04
foggycoder:
What does "nnma" mean? (your first post above)


CQ with extra gaps ;)



Posted: 2019-10-27 05:56
Good point, Panos. There is a major distinction between abbreviations and prosigns:

1. abbreviations, such as "cq", "dx", etc are sent as regular groups of characters with the usual space of three dits between "c" and "q".

2. prosigns are sent as one unit so, "BK" (normally with a bar above), is sent with one dit space between "B" and "K" and as as a result sounds exactly like "=" and is often written "=", as well.

The Q-codes are not prosigns at all, they are abbreviations and as such are sent with 3 dit space between each character

In practice, you will hear many ops sending prosigns wrongly. There are quite a few seasoned ops who refuse to answer messages sent in such an unclear way.


Posted: 2019-10-27 05:59
Sorry for the typo, it is "BT" which sounds like "="!


Posted: 2019-10-27 10:18
cb:
CQ with extra gaps ;)



Very amusing! :)


Posted: 2019-10-27 11:06
ID:
Sorry for the typo, it is "BT" which sounds like "="!


This is an annoyance about prosigns, because they can be written and messed up several ways.

Some "abbreviations" come from ( the original ) american morse, so
seem a bit odd in international morse ( from the German post office - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Clemens_Gerke )

Lots of suff on the web e.g

https://www.qsl.net/ae0q/prosign.htm


cb


Posted: 2019-10-27 11:17
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. . SNIP . .

In practice, you will hear many ops sending prosigns wrongly. There are quite a few seasoned ops who refuse to answer messages sent in such an unclear way.



foggycoder:
Very amusing! :)



It's a bit of a vexed issue, sometimes leading to much acrimony ( bad habit morse ) - as does some people's ( unhelpful, pedantic ( but not teaching ), condescending ) response to it.

People don't tend to listen to their own sending very much.


Periodically one of the old boys has a go at raising the issue and getting us all back into line a bit . .

eg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO_i-FiESjI&list=PLyHTX8JZedh8fb1ezAmDE91uDmAaf0Zxh&index=46&t=0s

( not that he's old )

Accuracy before speed.

Despite what some people seem to think , this is not a speed trial ( except between friends / rivals of course )

cb


Posted: 2019-11-01 11:06
https://www.qsl.net/w5www/abbr.html

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