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Thread: why would anyone want to send cw@70wpm

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Posted: 2017-02-22 06:40
I just don't get it. look at highscores sometimes. copy speeds of 200 wpm. Don't they make machines that do that for you? To me it's a hobby, not a race or a job. I would rather rag chew on cw at 13 than speed race at 25...like I say I just don't get it..machine not human..lol


Posted: 2017-02-22 17:40
A race can be a hobby Isn't it?

For a job 1-st class telegrapher required 25 wpm plain text, code less (20 wpm I remember).

Those guys that simulate copying with 200 wpm are probably faking, They suggest that already by their identity "Trollface"or something.

This website is created by dj1yfk, world champion call sign copy, for exercising CW, and when some people want to realize a fake championship on this website by crooking, it is up to them.
Nobody cares about those creatures, when their faking makes them happy, it will be so and hopefully make them lucky.

As an average performer, I can explain what my drive is to exercise CW.

1. CW is a cultural heritage that people (in fact hams) have to keep alive
2. I hate to ask for QRS, so my drive is to have never the need for asking QRS , that was also the drive of K7QO. (look for his website)
3. I am not a contester. but a designer and builder of my own equipment, and I use it explicit as designed for CW, I want to be able to QSO with readable plain text copied in my head at the fastest speed the other guy/gall can sent with a paddle. That is conversational speed like RTTY at 400 characters included spaces per minute understandable text in English or Dutch.

OK, this speed has no sense for the average CW-ham, that is proficient to make any QSO at 15 up to 20 wpm. Look at it as some personal challenge to reach a defined goal, just like people try to lift 6 times 160 kg or running 40 km/h on a running rubber band in a sport school.



Posted: 2017-02-22 18:23
I can understand a personal best somewhat, but not to the point of being over driven. Life is too short to be obsessive over unbelievable achievments or extravigent posessions.


Posted: 2017-02-22 19:09
Hi Bob,

Just a thought:
40% of the wealth of the whole world (possessions expressed in their USdollar value) is in the possession of the USA people, the USA houses roughly 5% of the population of the world. (So 95% have to do it with 60% and are per capita on the average 12.7 times poorer than the average Yankee. )

So, one must be one of the poorest inhabitants of the USA to make your statement realistic and still having Internet, a computer and spare time to learn CW.

Above that: People have different abilities. So that what for one person could be an obsessive unrealistic goal, another one does that in just 60 days with 10 minute/day exercises.

So be it. But having your abilities in performing high speed CW, doen't bring you any money. The only reward is that you develop during your lifetime your abilities, the best you can. And that is just the purpose of ham radio.



Posted: 2017-02-23 00:12
I agree with you. I guess we just look at some things differently, and that is what makes us all human/unique. I do try to be the best that I can, but don't let it bug me at age 65 if someone else is doing it better or faster. I guess we have gone full circle on this. It all comes down to being your personal best, and not worring about what someone else is doing.


Posted: 2017-02-23 15:27
I'm learning at 20 wpm then increasing it to 30. Once I get that down I add another letter at 20 then slowly increase it to 30. For now that's good enough. I don't think I will ever want to go much faster. It is a hobby.


Posted: 2017-02-23 21:48
Redshift:
I'm learning at 20 wpm then increasing it to 30. Once I get that down I add another letter at 20 then slowly increase it to 30. For now that's good enough. I don't think I will ever want to go much faster. It is a hobby.

What you are doing doesn't make much sense.

You increase the CHARACTER speed from 20 to 30, that will hardly give any problem. The real problem is to increase your EFFECTIVE speed from 10 to 20 (or 30 in case char speed is 30 wpm)

The effective speed 10 instead of 20 yields you double the reaction time to decode a character.
20/5 even 4 times.

You master a Morse code speed when your character speed is equal to your effective speed according to the definitions used on this website.


Posted: 2017-03-01 14:19
It's a hobby


Posted: 2017-03-01 22:13
Well . . .

If you are sinking

or

maybe if your friend can do it and is becoming annoying about it

( and I'm not sure which of those two is the least likely )

or maybe you ARE that annoying friend . . .


70 wpm is best sent by a computer anyway

I expect the real motivation is to wonder if you are able to read it at 70wpm.

If you are physically capable and have reached 40 or so then it can't take so much more practice to speed up . .


We'll see if brushup and/or Lea can be bothered in the end, but I doubt it somehow without some competitive drive . . .


Posted: 2017-03-25 13:28
Human psychology, some will do it because they genuinely can, bit like running or weightlifting, and others will be fakes/trolls to whom a false number on a system that accepts unverified input somehow lifts their low self esteem.
I see the same for cycling apps where the fastest times are in all likelihood obtained with the help of a motorbike.
Good old standard deviation is the answer anything outside the core bell curve is almost certainly suspect unless obtained in verified competition.
Would an Olympic gold runner post a time in a learn to jog club? (which lets face it is what most of us are about here)
Nuff said :-)


Posted: 2017-03-25 15:30
You hit ,the nail Mal, I suppose that especially paid sports, sport as a profession, is likelyhood a way that without the resaon of the lack of self esteem, is a very stimulating fact for crooking. Look at bike racing... Very frustrating for not crooking people.

The payment of sport is finally done for the entertainment of the masses in their chairs drinking beer watching their television screens and buying printed newspapers

Another thought: When 2 equally proficient people are going in politics, the one with worse and dishonest character will win, as a rule.


Posted: 2017-03-25 16:20
brushupCW:
Another thought: When 2 equally proficient people are going in politics, the one with worse and dishonest character will win, as a rule.



I think it is only the one who wants to "win" the most who wins - by cheating if necessary as an extra weapon . . . which of course counts

Single minded psychopaths fit in well to the political example given by Brushup here - often leaving a mess behind them because they don't hve to finish anything.


Paid sport is all about winning to make the sponsor look good ( recruit a volunteer competitor who wants their moment of fame rather than to be good at sport ) and is very expensive,
so
of course those are now the real rules, because no-one can trace modern PE drugs
and so
everyone else today follows the Russian government
( who have always been the world leading experts in the real rules ) in keeping strictly to those rules

i.e. no cheating, dishonesty, or nastiness ( except in forcing children to train ) is in fact possible - just naivety from the viewer.

I don't see much qudos in 70wpm though, without a race against a rival,
so
I bet most reading 70wpm is just to see if you can do it FWIW


Posted: 2017-03-26 20:50
Nobody can sent faster than 70 wpm with paddles, and it is about the regular RTTY speed of 400 characters per minute mixed text including spaces. So even mechanical RTTY machine keyboards with a buffered Morse translator cascaded, can't go any faster.

But I have reached my ceiling 45 wpm for words and text sentences head copy, so, I better quit than waste my time in trying to improve my speed.

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